Click to Cancel, The FTC, Industry Groups and Simplisafe

@worthing​ Interesting reply from Davey two plus years ago. It must have taken SS MarCom dept weeks to write that one up. I still have the "glass half full" attitude that Simplisafe will remember their roots (ie when the founder and his wife designed and built systems on their kitchen counter)- and do what is in the best interest of their customers. Standard "click to cancel" for customers that want it (and will tolerate the "risk" as SS puts it) and for those like me, offer enhanced security by calling in and providing a safe word and PIN).

Simplisafe, here's a question for you: Why do I not own one Apple product in my house? Why do my children, many relatives and people I know don't own any either?  Several reasons but the main one goes back to me walking into an Apple Store with my then brand new iPhone 4 and asked 1. when will the patch be available for your flubbed Verizon models (I was told by a "genius" there was none and then I had to show him the Apple bulletin on a MAC in the store) and 2. When would Apple allow me to download an app to avoid SPAM and he replied NEVER as Apple had to protect me from myself.  I am now on my 4 Pixel phone.

Get my drift? Awaiting your reply.

It's in the 5th circuit, thanks to ESA and Cable type companies etc.

Also in the 11th circuit, thanks to the Chambers of Commerce of a couple of States, so far, presumably representing their member companies who like negative options and $retention departments$.

And have all basically said, we the people are too stupid to know what Cancel means. Insulting actually.

I'm X'ing (AKA lobbying) 😁 like crazy for Congress to get it passed into law and overrule FTC rules and the courts entirely. (Barring Supreme intervention) (Why not? Time on my hands.) (long row to hoe though 🥱😩😫😴) 😂

Change can happen. For the majority of people who want it to anyhow.😉

(💪 To all those companies)

The other thread and many others like it, is a pretty good description of canceling and actually being put under duress. Lol (bantha poodoo) IMHO.😱😉

Time will tell.

Their roots matter very little when current primary majority ownership is a private equity firm and they get to call the shots.

The way of the world I suppose, start a good small business, sell it for a billion.

The heck with the customers.

To be fair though, most if not all security companies aren't privately owned anymore. So...

Well, one is, mine. I own all my home brewed security. 🤔🤣 (And some now mostly useless, albeit expensive, white cameras.😁🥱(Operation lobotomy🧑‍🔧?lol)

They actually open live view better without performance mode or any monitoring. (Points to firmware bugs) (As in goes around them now) (or weak firmware processors)(less to process now)

Good luck getting a reply.👍 Applaud 👏 your effort and tenacity.

@dlpsr​ After seeing the new FCC chair nominee oday, I believe the click to cancel reg is toast and will never, ever see the light of day  Hope I am wrong.

@captain11​ I think you may have the departments mixed up. Brendan Carr nominated today I think is his nominee for FCC.

I don't think FTC which is where click to cancel came out of has been picked yet.

Then again, listening to all this political crap all day gets old and I could've missed it.

Anyhow, the rule is written and approved by the FTC, becomes effective in April, is in the courts hands currently and may be completely killed or weakened to become ineffective. May not.

May even make the Supreme Court, big money businesses are involved.

Depends on the judges and whether they lean toward $business$ and $lobbyist$ or the people. We know how it should lean.

It's a good rule. I just signed with X for use of the Ai. Half the price of what Chatgpt wants per month, plus all that stuff people spew on X and his social media. 😂 

Grok, his Ai, is pretty good at YAML and Home Assistant programming, some of which is above my head. Not much but some..lol

Canceling X, just requires a login to Google Play subscriptions, cancel before the bills due. Done. My Malwarebytes is on Play, Google 1, all can be cancelled in a couple clicks on my phone.

That's, IMHO how it should all be across the board.

As I've said before, I'm not into blank spaces in laws where unelected bean counters can make up new rules.

It's the Congresses job. We all know how slow they are. Delegated powers I reckon.🤷

As to security, I've recently started leaning towards Passkeys vs login names or emails and passwords. I already use Yubikeys where possible, and Bitwarden for logins and password storage. All, very difficult to hack.

@dlpsr​ I stand corrected. Same end game, unfortunately.

@captain11​ Don't know the guy. Time will tell.