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Friday, June 7th, 2024 5:16 PM

No Link to Dispatcher on Keypad

Yesterday (June 5th), I downloaded new firmware onto the base station and keypad which I assume is the 2.16 firmware.  I did this at home where I have a WiFi network to download the new firmware.  I was preparing the system for a new Habitat for Humanity home we're building.  I also did the pairing and naming of all the entry sensors, motion sensors and sirens that we purchased for the house.  This all went as expected.

I have installed 30+ Simplisafe systems for Habitat homes over the past 5 years, so there was nothing out of the ordinary while preparing this system for its home.

However, when I went to the home today to install the sensors on the doors, windows, etc. I started getting an audible "beep" and the LED on the base station would flash yellow every 10 to 15 seconds.  The message on the keypad was "No link to dispatch". 

This was not a surprise since the house under construction has no internet connection or available WiFi signal.  Very few of our Habitat owners can afford an internet connection, and we chose Simplisafe as our go-to alarm system 5 years ago primarily because it allowed the system to be configured and operate in a Standalone mode (i.e. no internet connection).

A call to the Simplisafe Support line resulted in a lengthy discussion and I found out that a recent change (not sure if that was in 2.16 or not) meant that systems with no internet connection would get this audible alarm as well as the flashing yellow LED every few seconds.  This makes for an undesirable situation where the owner of the home will have to ignore audible and visible alarm indications.

In the past the lack of a link to a dispatch was not a problem since the system still would be activated should someone try to break into the house.  Of course, there would not be any alarm sent to police or fire, but at least there's an alarm for the family.  And the system, even in its current state, still gives audible beeps when an entry sensor is opened.

Further investigation showed that even when there are multiple alerts shown on the keypad (open door, low  battery, etc), I cannot view these alerts since the only alert I can see is the "No link to dispatch". 

I can understand why the cellular module would be turned off if there is no internet connection, but I am hoping that there is a way to make the system respond as it has in the past as a "Standalone" alarm system.

If not, Habitat may be forced to find a different alternative to Simplisafe.

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6 months ago

@rgmcleod52​ First, I applaud your community service and thank you being involved in your community.  The alert and lighting was updated for SS to comply with new regulations, but it is my understanding it can b shutoff. If it is the same warning, I shut mine off but must be done via the keypad.

If you can't find it there I would call support back and escalate.

Finally, suggest you contact SS, explain your role with Habitat with Humanity and see if SS can do something on their part to support this worthy organizatioo.

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6 months ago

@captain11​ Thank you for the reply.  I find the volunteer work with Habitat to be very rewarding.  I've helped build 45 homes in the last 5 years and seeing those 45 families get decent housing is its own reward.

I did contact SS support and explained the situation - both the alert state and Habitat - but they did not tell me of a way to shut that alert off.  I looked at the menu on the keypad and did not find anything that hinted at a solution.  Maybe it's buried somewhere.  If you can remember what you did to shut yours off I would be interested in knowing how to do that.

I asked the support supervisor to escalate this issue so that we might find a solution for this for the long term, but that was just yesterday and I haven't heard anything back from them yet.  My intention with my post here was to hopefully raise awareness and get someone from inside SS (like Davey D.) to help me get some visibility.

BTW, when the system alerts in the manner I've described, it makes it impossible to view any other alerts that the system might have logged - open doors/windows, low battery, etc - since using the keypad you can't get past the "No Link to Dispatch" alert even if there are 2, 3 or 4 other alerts indicated.

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6 months ago

Hi @rgmcleod52, 

I converted your original comment into its own post. That beeping sound you heard from the Base Station is its Trouble Signal, and the yellow flashing light it the Trouble Light. This was introduced as part of the system’s 2.10 firmware update as added support for the UL-985 standard.

The Trouble Signal and Trouble Light are meant to warn you about a potential issue regarding your system - like if a sensor is offline or there is a No Link to Dispatcher warning. This can be turned off using the Keypad, though. If you navigate to Menu > System Settings, you can turn both the Trouble Signals and Trouble Light settings off. And if the system detects a potential issue, you will still be notified on the Keypad.

Even if there is a No Link to Dispatcher warning, SimpliSafe sensors communicate to the Base Station through their own RF signal, not Wi-Fi, so if a sensor is tripped an alarm will still sound. But unfortunately that notification cannot be cleared from the Keypad unless the system is connected to Wi-Fi.

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@emily_s​ Thank you for the additional information.  It's good to know that there is a way to turn off this new behavior for those people who don't have an internet connection.  Sadly, neither the customer support representative, or his supervisor were aware of this capability when I talked with them on the phone yesterday.  Had they told me what you just did, I would have been able to change the system's configuration and would not have posted my experience on this forum. 

I admit that I was frustrated yesterday when it seemed that there was nothing I could do to change the behavior of the system.  Kudos to the programmers who made that possible.  I will visit the site tomorrow and try out the change and make sure things work as I had hoped.

One thing I noticed yesterday was that the keypad was showing several alerts.  But because of the "No Link to Dispatcher" issue I could not navigate to the 2nd or 3rd alerts even though the keypad showed that there was more than one alert.  If I turn off the Trouble Signals and Trouble Light settings, will I be able to navigate to these other alerts?  And is there a definition - either in the manual or online - that defines the troubles that trip the signal or lights?  Is the color of the light a clue to what the problem is?

And in addition, will the "No Link to Dispatcher" alert persist even when the two Trouble settings are turned off?  If so I would like to campaign for a setting that won't show that message forever.  For those users - like my Habitat owners - who are using the system in a standalone mode, it would be nice to not have that one alert always present.  Maybe a "standalone mode" that would turn off the cellular module and quiet the corresponding alert?

Lastly, the No Link to Dispatcher alert is, at best, misleading.  It just suggests that you reset your base station by removing power and battery for a moment causing a reset.  I think something more meaningful could be created that would help a user troubleshoot the issue.

Thanks again for your help.

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@rgmcleod52Turning off the Trouble Light and Trouble Signal settings will stop the Base Station from making that three-note chime and showing that flashing yellow light, but the notification will still show on the Keypad. Unfortunately, notifications on the Keypad that come from the Trouble Signal/Trouble Light cannot be cleared out to look at other notifications you may have—the issue itself needs to be resolved first.

The Trouble Light will always flash yellow, regardless of the type of problem. If you see this article in our Help Center, we list out the different issues that could trigger the Trouble Signal/Trouble Light.

Resetting the Base Station is one way to help it regain connection to its Wi-Fi network or cellular backup, but I will bring this feedback to our internal teams to see if there are any adjustments that can be made to the message.

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@emily_s​ Thanks again for the reply.  I went to the build site today and turned off both the Trouble Light and Trouble Signal using the System Settings menu.  This did stop the audible trouble alarm and the flashing light as you suggested it would.  Once I changed those settings I did see a new entry in the System menu "Non Compliant Settings" which listed the Trouble Signals and Trouble Light settings. 

I was incorrect in a previous post that I could not get to the other alerts (open door/window, etc).  I can indeed see these alerts by pressing 'down' on the screen edge once I'm looking at the first alert (the No Link to Dispatch).  With the setting changes the system now basically operates as it has done before, so that's good.

As far as the wording of the message that shows when the trouble signal is active, it seems - at least to me - to be very general and wishful thinking that a reset of the base station would fix the issue (without knowing what that issue is).  Maybe it should point the customer to the Help Center article you sent me for ideas on what might be the problem.

I would like to suggest that a new entry in the System menu be added.  Maybe something called "System Mode" where the choices would be "Connected to Internet" and "Standalone".  The first choice would be the default, but if Standalone is chosen, the alert for No Link to Dispatch alert would not appear on the keypad, but the other causes of Trouble Signal and Trouble Light issues could still be active.  Just a suggestion.

I hope that the customer support personnel get thorough training on the Trouble Signal and Trouble Light settings and what causes them.  Clearly the two people I talked to on the phone the other day were not aware of this change.

Thanks again for the help.

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