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Monday, October 24th, 2022 6:13 PM

Outdoor cameras failed during home break-in

Someone broke into my home over the weekend and neither of my outdoor cameras caught reliable footage. The delay in recording motion detection is so bad that they were almost out of my back yard before the second camera they passed in front of, caught an image of their back. I'm extremely livid about this situation and I want to know what Simplisafe is going to do about it. It seems they aren't providing the service for which I'm paying.

Also, the one video in which I was barely able to catch the criminals wouldn't play on my app and kept crashing it. I called tech support and they didn't know what the problem was and told me to just use the computer. 

My disappointment in the "security" company that was supposed to help me protect my home is through the roof. Simplisafe has failed and I expect a response fast. 

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2 years ago

Hi,

I'm very sorry to hear about this. I saw your other post in a different thread, and have requested a call from our escalation team. We'll take care of you.

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@davey_d​  Davey, you haven’t been any REAL for our camera problems. Words are normally cheap but these cameras ARE NOT. There is no true fix, if there was we all would shout from the cameras

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2 years ago

I'm sorry that happened to you. I've talked to customer support many of times about this same scenario with my cameras only to be told that its normal for the cameras to do that. There is not much security in these cameras. I wish you well and I hope everything works out for you.

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@larrhurd​ I mentioned in your other comment, but no, this would not be considered 'normal'. In the ideal situation, there might be a very short lag time due to communication across the internet, but there shouldn't be a severe lag time.

Our engineers continue to work on improvements, and we've made great progress over the last couple of updates already. But there's more to come.

In the meantime, our Support team can work with you on improving connectivity - not just between the camera and your WiFi, but also between your camera and the Base Station, since both connections are required for the camera to function.

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I already was talking to the support team; my connections are great to both the base station and cameras. The connection is not the problem, the cameras are!! As I told support, one of my cameras is 4 feet from base station and the signal only has to go through 1 wood wall, the other camera is 15 feet away from station and has to go through one wood wall. My signal strength to both cameras are 41 dBm and upload speed is 14 Mbps each. If these cameras need more than that then they are worthless to anyone who doesn't have business speed internet. My base station is 10 feet from my gateway and one wood wall, again it has plenty of signal and speed going to it. I have 1.2 gig download speed and 40 Mbps upload speed. Again, it's not my internet it's the cameras, be it hardware or software or both. I just want them fixed, I spent big money on these cameras and expect them to work!! As of now I'm paying for a service that I'm not receiving. These complaints have been going on for a very long time and nothing is being done about it!! All support wants to do is send more cameras to try to fix the problem but it's not working. Again a 20 second delay is not normal for a security camera; you will never catch a thief with that much delay. All these people complaining about these cameras, and nothing is being done about it is the failure of SimpliSafe not the people who are purchasing these cameras. If you can't fix them, buy them back!!   

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No, based on what you've described, it's not about the connection through your WiFi router or the internet. The camera needs to link with the Base Station to activate, and that uses local RF rather than WiFi - the same connection used by the sensors. So troubleshooting the local signal by addressing interference might help a bit.

But like I said, our engineers are still working hard on improvements on our end, and even more updates are coming soon.

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First of all, I have 4 cameras.  2 of which have always worked fine and are connected to the router's SSID.  My base station is also on the router's SSID.  I only had some intermittent issues.

Since, I had a degradation of the wifi signal on the further side of my house, I thought to improve the signal with an extender (same company - Netgear).  I used a mesh system thinking I could just use the same SSID.  Then started having frequent and intermittent issues with connectivity.  I separated the SSIDs to see if one of them was the issue.  The extender has worked fine with other devices.  So, I connected my cameras to the extender SSID thinking it would have a better signal.  Well low and behold the cameras continued to worked initially then stopped working.  I would turn on and off my extender - they would reconnect and then in 24 hours go out again with no connectivity. 

Simply Safe has replaced my cameras, sent me an extender (which would not have worked in any case) all of which did not work.  I believe we worked out the issue, but I am crossing my fingers - the external cameras and the base station have to work off of the same SSID network, otherwise you will have issues (which is why my two cameras on the router worked fine.  Even though I have a signal degradation of my router signal (40-50 dbm vs. 11 dbm), the cameras when switched back to base stations SSID now work.  Hopefully, more often then when on the extender.  This means that you have to connect all of your cameras to the same SSID as the base station.  I am not sure about having to connect to the base stations RF since this was not issue and my cameras which well - are much further away.   

Another tidbit I found out today is you can use the APP to change the wifi network of the cameras (even without connectivity) when you are away from your house, this sort of confirms that the base station has to work on the same SSID as all of your cameras.  Of course, this would be an issue for those who think they need an extender or do not have connectivity to the SSID that their base station is on. 

Just an FYI post.  I am getting a couple of ARLO Pro 4 cameras just in case because I use the cameras to alert me prior to some one breaking into my house and just in case my latest "fix" doesn't work very well. 

It would seem it would benefit the public if Simply Safe would publish how their WIFI/RF/base station/external cameras/communicate with protocols and recommended settings OR at least, develop a diagnostic program to pinpoint what the issues are.  The connectivity button on the app is worthless.  The frontline techs do not know this information either apparently as I have probably talked to 4-5 of them and 1 A-team each has given me a piece of the connectivity pie. 

Good luck!  

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2 years ago

Sorry to hear this.  This is what WE have all been complaining about.  Since my post to this thread a month or two ago, I was told by all tech support it was my internet connections fault.  In that time, I was told to purchase SS wifi extender for the camera $20 + .  It has been placed a foot away from the camera (inside to outside) and over 8 feet to the camera.  Still over 20 seconds to connect.  Unacceptable.  Now, again, I was told that it is my internet connection.  Last week we were finally able to get Fiber Optic Internet (a two year wait), my speed check is 80% better than the wire connection was.  I am still at 20 seconds for the camera to wake up.  I believe that we are all tired of paying for something (the most important part of our systems) that we are not getting the full service for.  20 second wake up time for the outside camera is unacceptable.  Get the D@$N thing fixed.  I can’t get a faster connection to the internet any more, I paid for an extender, and everything else that you propose/suggest and it is not my fault that camera does not work.  Get the software fixed, or give the cameras away for free so I/we can take a few more  and install them all around the outside perimeter of our property so that one of them might wake up in time and maybe catch something other than a thiefs back!   PLEASE HELP!

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2 years ago

As the original poster of this thread many months ago, I've watched this for a long time now.  In addition to  excellent WIFi speeds, my outdoor camera is hooked to a solar powered cell.  A simple software change should allow all of us with 'always on' power to keep our cameras on all the time.

I think it's time for a class-action suit, and I'm betting 1 of the hundreds of litigation attorneys in Vegas would be willing to talk to me.


Selling a security camera that won't turn on to provide security would make good fodder for our local news teams too.

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2 years ago

As I have said in the past, my cameras perform the same way,,,badly. I asked a question before that has never been answered. Is the video direct from the internet connection OR, is the video coming from SimpliSafe through their server network. The problem we are all experiencing may be due to a lack of server capacity and the subsequent feeds from SimpliSafe. I suspect the defect resides wholly on the SimpliSafe network.

Everyone needs a clarification on this issue regarding my question. 

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@garvey_k​ I recall answering your question before. The cameras do link through our servers, before being served up to the app on your phone on demand. But our engineers are constantly monitoring, and it's definitely not a capacity issue on our end.

The lag time as described is a side effect of the Outdoor Camera's deep sleep, which is necessary for battery life. To wake the camera up, it needs to link with the Base Station, using the same local radio connection as the sensors. That's why troubleshooting that connection like we do with sensors can help.

However, there's more that can be improved in that link through the firmware, and our engineers continue to work on it. Further updates are coming to your cameras soon.

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1 year ago

Someone tried breaking into my house today and triggered the alarm. The video footage from that exact moment says "No Video - We did not receive this part of the recording from your camera." WHAT A JOKE!!! I have the police department asking me to dowload footage and I have nothing because this system failed. I have been on hold with tech support to see if they can recover anything and NO ONE answers!!!!!!! I am furious. I have been a loyal customer for YEARS and the one time I need them - they are no where to be found. No one answers, no one calls back. I have a right to feel safe in my home with the system and service I pay for. Such a complete dissapointment. I'll be switching systems asap.

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@Jebu​ I'm really sorry to hear this. I saw your other post, and I've forwarded your case to our escalated Support team. A specialist will reach out to you soon.

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Exact same thing just happened to us.  We were told that the issue was with our internet provider and we must go buy a new router for better connectivity.  Ok, so I go buy a new router and reconnect everything...guess what, same connection speed!  And Xfinity doesn't have a better option unless we go with a business package so they've assured us it's not our WiFi.  I called SimpliSafe back to explain so then they said well it has to be because your camera is so far from your router so they graciously sent us a Wifi extender, which I installed this weekend thinking that would solve our issue (our driveway camera (one out of 4) keeps detecting motion but not able to record, aka "No Video" or when I try to connect live I get an error).  It worked for about 24hrs then back to the same problem today.

We've had this system for years.  After our house was robbed the day after Thanksgiving and our system captured NOTHING, I even ended up buying more SimpliSafe products to add camera's, window alarms, etc. But, now that their "fix" still isn't working, my trust in this product and company has faded beyond disappointment. 

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1 year ago

@davey_d  - i just had the same exact issue. And your support team is refusing a refund. 

These products are garbage and unreliable. Why are you refusing a refund for a product that isn't doing its job.

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@eazyeazy​ I'm sorry about this. I commented on your other post about this, but I just wanted to let you know here as well that your case has been sent to our escalated Support team. A specialist will be in touch soon to help.

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10 months ago

I feel your pain. We had same situation. Got calls from Simplisafe and was just a bunch of canned responses and they have a fetish about resetting the camera/doorbell. I've reset both about a hundred times. They both still don't work. Got some magic wedge that still doesn't do the job. Doorbell won't work in the winter and is hardwired. My outdoor camera is missing due to faulty hardware that holds up the camera. Sure I'll find it in the snow someday. I am so fed up I submitted a BBB complaint. Good luck to all! I think I'm off this ship and on to a system that actually works. Up for suggestions!! 

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