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Protection against Wi-Fi jamming, congestion, interference
How does the system protect against wi-fi signal jamming, congestion, or interference? I'm referring to the signal between base station and wi-fi router. I understand that the system can detect and alert of RF interference/jamming between sensors and base station, but that's not what I'm asking about.
Is the system able to detect and send alerts (via cellular) when the wifi signal is being jammed or the moment the connection is lost? What if there's congestion on the wifi channel being used by the system and router, that slows throughput so much that the base station can't send an alert? Will the system recognize this condition and immediately send any alarm alerts over cellular?
Does the base station keep an always on connection to the SS server and the moment this connection to the server is disrupted, it immediately switches to cellular and alerts of the dropped wifi connection? Is such a switchover from wifi to cellular immediate and seamless or is there a delay? If so, how long is the delay?
Ultimately, is there any scenario where the wifi connection can fail due to wifi signal issues and the cellular backup, provided its connection is functional, does NOT kick in immediately to send alerts, resulting in delayed alerts or no alerts at all?
I'm disappointed that the base station doesn't include an ethernet port. A wired connection to the router would eliminate any potential system failures related to wi-fi. Perhaps include an ethernet port in future iterations of the base station?
davey_d
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5.7K Messages
2 years ago
Hi @Boring_Joe,
Yes, if WiFi ever goes down, and assuming that the cell connection is active, it should take over immediately. There shouldn't be an in-between state where neither are available.
I would recommend testing your cell connection at least once, if not regularly, by removing the WiFi connection from your Keypad Menu, then sending a Test Signal. So long as cell is able to connect, there should be no disruption to the link with Monitoring.
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lance843
1K Messages
2 years ago
If someone tries to jam it you will get a notification and if your base station looses wifi for any reason it will automatically connect to the cell chip and you will get that notification as well, not sure what happens if the wifi signal is to congested as I don't believe I have ever had that lol
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shiherlis
739 Messages
2 years ago
Something disconnected my Base Station's Wi-Fi on 12/7/22 (Wi-Fi Disconnected in the Timeline), and I did not receive a notification via the app. It was one of the rare times it happened without notice, and it worries me due to the time of year (i.e., holidays). It was also odd as I was not home prior, and I set the alarm to Away. Four minutes after returning, the Wi-Fi went down and was not restored for over an hour (Wi-Fi Connection Restored). Again, I did not receive any notification; I merely happened to check my Timeline randomly. I had eight packages waiting at my doorstep and was notified of someone I had never seen going to the side of my home office window by Deep Sentinel before leaving (I was in the shower). I was gone for only 30 minutes.
I often test my system by purposely disconnecting my router, and I will immediately receive an alert of disconnection and restoration. So I am uncertain if it is an app issue @davey_d (a few Android updates have come quickly lately).
I am leaving for vacation soon, and after a decade with SimpliSafe, I do not feel safe after what happened. Yes, it did revert to cellular (I know from the Timeline's activity), but what if I am away and it does not?
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Boring_Joe
88 Messages
2 years ago
So, I'm still not sure exactly how SS gen 3 handles Wi-Fi jamming, interference, and congestion. Therefore, I think I'll just leave this thread with a suggestion for improvement that hopefully can be implemented in the next generation base station:
1. Add an ethernet port to the base station. That way the system doesn't have to rely on Wi-Fi at all and can be plugged into one's router instead.
2. Keep Wi-Fi as an option for those that may want/need it for a number of reasons, but include 5 GHz Wi-Fi and WPA3. The additional channels available with 5 GHz Wi-Fi should make congestion much less of a possibility. Also, I hear WPA3 should make it more difficult for an attacker to knock the system off of Wi-Fi.
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tstevensbusiness101
7 Messages
9 months ago
I am definitely with @Boring_Joe on this. I would definitely feel better with an Ethernet port. I got rid of my Ooma security system; I still use them for phone, because I did not like the idea of combining phone and security in the same device. The Ooma does have a Fast Ethernet port, no Gigabyte, and a cellular backup dongle. But, I also have issues with Ooma and my router. I had to install an Internet Gateway between my cable modem and my primary router that strips the security but provides an IP address for devices so my Ooma would work with it plugged into the Gateway and not my primary router. Granted thieves can cut my cable connection, forcing the need for a cellular backup. I guess the benefit of Ethernet is removing the possibility of any kind of jamming. I have a neighbor who knew how to jam my WIFI security cameras until I returned them and bought POE, which solved the security camera jamming issue, but each camera, there's three of them, cost $200/piece. That said, I would pay extra and even buy a new base station if Simplisafe would add an Ethernet port, but I sense that many customers would get confused about that. I know the margins are thin, but how much extra cost would adding an Ethernet port be?
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